Granger Heading to Vegas

In 49 states it's just basketball...but this is Indiana!
Austin Croshere took advantage of his playing time with an offensive outburst as the Mavs ran away from the Supes. Good night for a good guy as Cro poured in 34 points in 23 minutes with 7 luscious 3-balls that no fantasy owner will ever claim.
PTS | REB | ASST | BLK | STL | 3-PT | |
Austin Croshere | 34 | 7 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 7 |
(Photo: Ron Hoskins/NBAE via Getty Images)
Kevin Garnett flashed his greatness in leading Minny past the streaking Suns. Somewhere Dwane Casey sighs.
PTS | REB | ASST | BLK | STL | 3-PT | |
Kevin Garnett | 44 | 11 | 2 | 0 | 3 | 0 |
The Pacers have to pick themselves up off the canvas after getting reality checked by the Pistons on Sunday night. The team's positive momentum came to a screeching halt as fast as you can say "'Sheed and Chief-Webb." What better tonic for what ails you than a visit from the Celtics? After all, the C's have lost eleven in a row and the focus around North Station has drifted to day dreaming about players named Oden and Durant.
Chaikin took each personnel group, ran the numbers through 100 season simulations and came up with the average results. The old Pacers projected to an average finish of 40-42. The new Pacers, on the other hand, project to 45-37. By Chaikin's purely scientific calculations, then, the trade will be worth five more victories this season.
"Fans sometimes think certain players do the community service just for the media coverage, but that's not me," O'Neal said. "We snuck in and snuck out when we did our community service last summer. I kind of grew a bond with some of the kids that were there. I just want to be a mentor."
The fresh Weekly NBA Division Reports are up at About.com's basketball site. Here's the lineup for the weekly reports:
Antawn Jamison continued his outstanding play of late by leading the Wizards to a win over the Boston Celtics.
PTS | REB | ASST | BLK | STL | 3-PT | |
Antawn Jamison | 34 | 7 | 7 | 0 | 3 | 4 |
Zach Randolph littered the stat sheet with goodies in the Blazers 2OT win over the Grizzlies.
PTS | REB | ASST | BLK | STL | 3-PT | |
Zach Randolph | 42 | 12 | 2 | 0 | 2 | 1 |
"In the second half, I thought we got tougher defensively, more tough-minded," Pacers coach Rick Carlisle said. "We got to a lot of loose balls that we didn't get to in the first half. We picked it up in the second half; that was the difference in the game."Jermaine O'Neal continues to enjoy the new look roster and team's ability to spread the wealth as displayed last night with five players in double figures:
"We're starting to get it together," O'Neal said. "We've got a lot of offensive threats out there. We have a fine mix of everything. We don't have too much of anything, which is very beneficial to us."The trade's feel-good momentum will be tested Sunday night with a trip to the Palace to take on the Central Division leading Pistons.
The Pacers welcome the Toronto Raptors who arrive in Indy after beating Boston Friday night in Toronto. The Raptors come to town has one of the hottest teams in the league having won five of their last six games to reach .500 and surge ahead in the not so stellar Atlantic Division. Since returning from injury Chris Bosh has played at a high level and was voted as a starting forward for the East in the All-Star Game. Bruno's preview discusses the fact that Bosh beat out Jermaine O'Neal who many (me, me, me!) think deserved the start if based strictly on merit. JO isn't quite as upset as I am:
"He's a young, upcoming guy; he's the future of our league," O'Neal said. "I take my hat off to Chris. I'm proud of him. I know him and his family very well. I have no problem coming off the bench behind Chris Bosh."The Indy Star has a similar article with more Bosh/JO mutual adoration. Bosh's take on his All-Star selection over JO:
"With all respect to Jermaine, he's a good player, he's been in this league 10-plus years and he's really proved himself to be a bonafide All-Star and a superstar in this league and for fans to notice me, it's kind of mixed emotions," Bosh told Toronto reporters. "I kind of ask why, but at the same time, I appreciate it."
Ice, my brother from another mother, was chastising me for handing out two LoNnys in a row to guys with no treys. I am, after all, a sucker for the 3-ball and it often is the deciding factor. Well, thanks to Jamal Crawford I can make up for the past two picks in one night. Crawford scored nearly half of his 52 from behind the arc and led the Knicks to a shocking drubbing of the Heat.
PTS | REB | ASST | BLK | STL | 3-PT | |
Jamal Crawford | 52 | 3 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 8 |
Ben Gordon led the way to nice Bulls' win over the sizzling Dallas Mavericks.
PTS | REB | ASST | BLK | STL | 3-PT | |
Ben Gordon | 30 | 6 | 5 | 2 | 0 | 0 |
Plenty of big numbers thrown up around the Association last night. Multi-tasking gets the nod as Pau Gasol displayed all of his tradeable assets with a triple-double in the Grizzlies' OT win over the Jazz.
PTS | REB | ASST | BLK | STL | 3-PT | |
Pau Gasol | 17 | 13 | 12 | 2 | 1 | 0 |
(Photos: Ron Hoskins/NBAE via Getty Images)
The Sonics didn't have enough for the Nuggets, but Ray Allen did what he could. 6-17 from 3-land? Gotta applaud the effort.
PTS | REB | ASST | BLK | STL | 3-PT | |
Ray Allen | 44 | 3 | 5 | 0 | 3 | 6 |
Once again, the Pacers' are expecting Shaquille O'Neal's return when they play the Heat. Last Thursday in Miami there was noise about Shaq's return. With the Pacers broken up by the trade it made sense for Shaq to skip the game. A few days later and Shaq still has not played, plus Dwyane Wade missed the Heat-Knicks game on Monday. Wade is expected back while Shaq's return is a mystery. After so much time off, maybe it wouldn't hurt the Pacers if Shaq played. The rest of the Heat would have to get used to having the big fella on the court again which could disrupt the style they've been playing without him. Call me Mr. Positive. Here is Bruno's preview.
"What’s most important to us right now is to get everybody comfortable, get everybody on the same page, and really get geared up for the second half of the season, because that’s what really counts," said Jermaine O'Neal. "You have to be willing to believe with the guys that we have. These guys are really built for a system, Troy Murphy, Ike (Diogu), and Mike Dunleavy, all those guys are doing very well in our system.
"We all seem to play well off of each other, not that Al (Harrington) and those guys, we didn’t mesh -- it wasn’t like that -- but considering I didn’t know much about the guys, they’re perfect for the system that we have. If we were going to trade guys like we traded, those would be the perfect guys to trade for."
"I've been around the NBA for a long time and Darrell Armstrong is Kevin Garnett in a 5-10 body," Carlisle said. "He gives that kind of energy. He has that kind of unbridled enthusiasm for the game and for his teammates. He's a guy that was written off so many times before he got to this league. He's got a heart as big as Conseco Fieldhouse."
Kobe Bryant carried the Lakers to a fourth quarter comeback over Golden State.
PTS | REB | ASST | BLK | STL | 3-PT | |
Kobe Bryant | 42 | 8 | 1 | 1 | 2 | 4 |
The Carnival of the NBA #40 - The Bill Laimbeer Edition is up at, where else, Detroit Bad Boys.
Jamaal Tinsley's dream of playing all 82 may end tonight.
"I like to do it," he said. "I'm going to do it here."-------------------------------------------------------------------------
...Jackson had been among a group of players who were seemingly more interested in enjoying the nightlife in various NBA cities on a regular basis than they were in trying to get the Pacers into the playoffs.Hmm, I wonder who else was in that group? Certainly helps explain the erratic backcourt production.
Hmm, pick a Sun any Sun. Shawn Marion hasn't been considered for many LoNny's this year, but gets the nod since he dabbled in all of the key stats on the line, including grabbing 20 caroms.
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Shawn Marion | 17 | 20 | 3 | 2 | 1 | 1 |
Just another huge game for Allen Iverson, as the Nuggets take care of the Rockets in OT.
PTS | REB | ASST | BLK | STL | 3-PT | |
Allen Iverson | 36 | 3 | 10 | 0 | 4 | 2 |
(Photo: Ron Hoskins/NBAE via Getty Images)
Pacers.com has an introductory video greeting from all of the new Pacers. Obviously they didn't prepare a script for these things.
Jack and Saras took their shots at Carlisle's coaching yesterday. I've seen these guys bounce pass the ball directly to the other team enough to know it wasn't all the coaches fault.
Blowing Up The Pacers: Informed sources near the Pacers situation suggest that Jermaine O’Neal may be a lot closer to being dealt than even he will admit. A few weeks ago he announced to the press that if he could not get the Pacers turned around and winning, maybe it was time for him to go. That seems very likely to happen this summer, although a handful of GM’s and scouts say it could happen before the trade deadline. One informed source hinted that Marcus Camby or even Brad Miller could be parts of a J-O package deal, as the Pacers have at times expressed interest in both players – Camby likely as bait for a third team, and Brad Miller as a solid dependable foundation piece. With marquee talents like Vince Carter, Jason Kidd and even Pau Gasol possibly available now, don’t be surprised to see Jermaine’s name surface as the deadline approaches. If the Pacers could return Brad Miller and Vince Carter for Jermaine, or Brad Miller and Kevin Martin for a Jermaine package – that might be just enough to jump start Indiana, or at least give Pacers fans players they can cheer for.At least give Pacers fans players they can cheer for? What? With the way JO is playing this year, how can you not cheer for him? Remember the Montieth mantra -- Rumored trades rarely happen and the trades that happen are rarely rumored.
Marcus Camby came up big last night at the Nuggets rolled against Cleveland despite a tidy triple-double from LeBron.
PTS | REB | ASST | BLK | STL | 3-PT | |
Marcus Camby | 26 | 17 | 2 | 2 | 1 | 0 |
JO has left it out on the court too, playing through an aggravating ankle injury. He appeared to be moving around better on Thursday nigh, so hopefully the worst is behind him.(On the end of the game) “Guys made big plays. Jeff Foster carried us for the last two minutes. Marquis Daniels, Danny Granger, and Jeff Foster carried us all night; especially Jeff Foster. He had three consecutive three-point-plays which is big considering they were nine to 10 points ahead. We have to feel good about the effort considering we came back against a really good Miami HEAT team.”
(On Danny Granger) “In order to be a real good team you have to have one, two, or maybe a three good [players] to excel. I think Danny Granger did a really good job preparing himself for tonight. He looked tremendous on both ends of the floor. I think he is up for the challenge. When opportunity calls you have to answer the door and I think he is doing that right now.”
Walsh denied the rumor and more on Chad Ford's Daily Dish podcast. Great discussion of how the trade came about and stayed a secret. Plus, the plans for the new look roster. Great stuff, give it a listen."Absolutely untrue," Pacers CEO Donnie Walsh said Thursday.
"I talked to Indiana today for 45 minutes and there was no talk of any kind of deal," the elder Dunleavy told Los Angeles-area reporters. "He's there because they want him there."
Darrell Armstrong concedes he's not the best field goal kicker in town (no, not shooter, kicker). Second best? Definitely. DA knows he's good from 50 yards out and plans to go to the AFC Championship game. If Adam Vinatieri is kidnapped by some overzealous Pats' fans before Sunday's Colts-Pats games, then DA will be ready to kick.
The Mavs made sure the Lakers don't get too excited about their standing in the Western Conference. Josh Howard did the damage along with some help from Dirk.
PTS | REB | ASST | BLK | STL | 3-PT | |
Josh Howard | 29 | 11 | 5 | 1 | 2 | 2 |
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Man, after listening to Charles Barkley's TNT takes I sure feel better about Pacers' end of yesterday's trade. TNT also had the first comments I've heard from Jermaine O'Neal. He's in a tough spot because if he complains about the trade, which would pile on his previous complaints, he's seen as a malcontent. If he expresses excitement and renewed enthusiasm he ends up slamming his buddy Al. In essence, he said that the trade hurt him personally because of losing Al, but he completely understands from a professional standpoint.
Rumored trades rarely happen and the trades that happen are rarely rumored.
The Pacers have an important game tonight at Miami, but will be shorthanded as the ex-Warriors make their way to Indy. Not worried about Shaq returning anymore since it probably won't matter. All focus is on the Pacers trade now anyway. Actually, in Indy all of the focus is on the Colts and Patriots. Whenever the Colts' run ends there will be a lot of casual Pacer fans tuning in and asking, "Where is Al Harrington and who is that skinny, shaggy-haired kid?" Here is Bruno's preview that is actually trade talk. Here is more on the former Pacers.
There were better lines last night but nothing spectacular, so I'm going with Brandon Roy as he mounts a charge for the R.O.Y. BRoy got it done on both ends of the floor to help sink LeBron and the Cavs.
PTS | REB | ASST | BLK | STL | 3-PT | |
Brandon Roy | 19 | 10 | 4 | 0 | 6 | 1 |
First of all, now that the unexpected shock of this trade has receded, I’m still not excited about the players coming in but I can’t get myself riled up about any perceived imbalance with the deal either. Let’s face it, looking at the black and white numbers of a stat sheet, Golden State should feel very good about this trade and it appears their fans do. You have to check out the greatest trade analysis post in the history of the NBA blogosphere by Atma Brother #1 over at Golden State of Mind.
Josh Powell is a nice player to have on the bench. He played his way onto the roster in preseason with plenty of praise and comparison to Udonis Haslem of the Heat. Powell was a non-factor in the regular season, so there's nothing negative to say other than he's all potential at this point.
Saras (a bonus for me is not having to write around the word Jasikevicius) never seemed like the player we saw running around in the 2004 Olympics draining unconscious 3-balls. One problem that was exposed this year is that Cabages is more comfortable shooting from inside the arc in the NBA. He's only shooting .372 from 3-land this year (which is an improvment over last year). Another problem area is a serious lack of quickness. He is a well known defensive liability, which actually may not be a problem with Nellie Ball. Saras loves to dazzle with the pass and can on occasion. He also burps up turnovers that look pretty silly with the attempted dazzle. So you have a slow, two guard in a PG body who doesn't light it up from behind the arc. The freedom of Nellie Ball may just save his career, we'll see...
Al "The Big Thirst" Harrington served two tours of duty in Indy. He intitially arrived on a veteran team and was dubbed Baby Al. He even lived with Antonio Davis' family and had AD's wife pinning reminders to his shirt like her other kids. All that was expected of Al in his first few years was to work on his game and be the face of the future for the Pacers. Well, with all of that work and no play, Baby Al was a little too excited when he got his chance. He had so much to prove, his mind would race ahead of his body. He wanted (actuall still wants) to be an All-Star level player but just couldn't put it all together and with Artest in the lineup, Al's chance to start wasn't going to happen.
Al went to Atlanta and played well, which I think was due to the fact that all of those people back in Indy that he wanted to impress weren't around. He had a fresh start and was able to show what he could do. Then he returns to Indy with the confidence from his play in Atlanta. Now he can prove he's the player everyone expected to eventually develop. The problem is, he's not quite as good as he thinks he is. Al's shooting an incredible percentage from behind the arc this year, but he still gets ahead of himself and out of control when he's trying to finish. His overall FG% matches his 3 pt% and I guarantee you most of the misses inside the arc are on bunnies within 3-4 feet of the bucket.
So, there is a lot to like about Al's game but he's inconsistent. Some nights he plays like the Big Thirst and other nights he plays like Baby Al. Obviously, the change of scenery will help him the most, but don't expect him to accept a straight play defense and rebound role. He wants to be the man and will go into a funk when he's not getting his touches. We just went through this act a couple of weeks ago when he told us he'd go "Artest" which, in the context he was using it, meant to force the action when the had the ball in order to get off some shots. Great smile, great guy and for that will be missed.
Stephen Jackson, like Al, is high maintenance. He plays on an emotional edge which is anything but steady. This also leads to inconsistent production when you sometimes have to ask, "What is Jack doing out there?" He has been on his best behavior this year, so the stop in his tracks complaining has been minimized (which is tough because the guy gets absolutely no calls). But with the new emphasis on complaining and the little issue of TWO PENDING COURT DATES, you can tell he's making an effort to project a positive image. Give him credit, he's done pretty well, only getting suspended once for insubordination. Not bad. The off the court image issue with the Pacers and fans is blatant so there's not much else to say. One final point of concern is that there are far more opportunities for trouble in Oaktown than in Indy.
On the court, Jack is a 6'8" shooting guard but he rarely plays that big. In fact, Carlisle recently lamented the fact that Al and Jack don't impose the physical size mismatch against their opponents often enough. Post play just is not their forte. Jack is a classic streaky shooter which works if you can get him to stop shooting when he's cold, although that's not an easy task.
Bottom line with Jack is, his play couldn't make up for the poor light he cast on the franchise during training camp. I see negotiations playing out like this:
Mully said, "OK, how about Powell, Saras, Harrington and...Stephen Jackson."
Bird replied, "Excuse me, did you say Jackson?"
Mully, "Yes."
Bird, "Deal! Now who are we getting?"
Good luck to all of the former Pacers and good luck to all Warrior fans. I hope you make the playoffs.
The Pacers and Warriors have reportedly agreed to an eight player trade. Plenty of analysis left on this one, but my initial reaction (after WOW!!!) is that this trade shakes the team to the core and that's a good thing. Trading two starters and another heavy contributor off the bench is HUGE. Add to the fact that Stephen Jackson was part of the deal which will help from a PR stand point. Can't say I'm real excited about the players heading to Indy but it should immediately help offensively. The defense wasn't exactly stellar prior to the trade, so if the Pacers have a few more consistent scoring options it can't hurt.
Tracy McGrady did everything he could but the Mavs were still able to add another second-half, beat-down victim to their list.
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Tracy McGrady | 45 | 5 | 7 | 1 | 1 | 4 |
In the Indy Star's Pacers Notebook today, Mike Wells discusses Marquis Daniels starting the second half against the Nets in place of Al Harrington. The Big Thirst has been a little frustrated lately as it is since he can't seem to sync up with JO to become a devastating front court duo. So the initial thought is -- uh, oh, more drama ahead. Ironically, in the preview for the Nets game, Carlisle discussed his starting lineup needing to exploit their physical size advantage on smaller lineups. Oops, I guess quick can beat big also. Mike seemed content with the explanation that this was a one time switch in order to put a quicker defender on Richard Jefferson. Carlisle wanted to downplay any speculation of a starting lineup change:
After reading the latest Pacers Insider post, it appears after further consideration Mike isn't so sure about Carlisle's explanation. Mike's thought process mirrors mine -- Harrington is the best candidate to sit but that seems like change for the sake of change. Bringing Granger and Daniels off the bench for a change of pace works much better plus all of the players have settled into these roles. Let's not forget, the Pacers were playing some decent ball until they failed to show up in Jersey. There's no reason to panic and make changes over that mess."I was just trying to match up with their quickness," Carlisle said. "I thought (Daniels) did a good job defensively and offensively in the third quarter."
Gilbert Arenas was grilling some lunch time treats on his famous mini-grill. 51 points with 7 3-balls including the game winner? Now that's my kind of line!
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Gilbert Arenas | 51 | 3 | 5 | 0 | 1 | 7 |
Don't forget to check out the Weekly NBA Division Reports on About.com's basketball section. Here's the lineup for the weekly reports:
The Mavericks continue to perfect the art of the second half comeback, driving everyone they play nuts. Dirk did his part in the Mavs win over the Raptors.
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Dirk Nowitzki | 38 | 11 | 5 | 3 | 2 | 3 |
The Pacers celebrate Martin Luther King, Jr. Day with a matinee at New Jersey Monday afternoon. Despite the gut wrenching loss to Dallas on Friday, the Pacers level of play has risen lately so this game against the Nets offers another chance to take a step forward. Here is Bruno's game preview. The preview raises a couple of points:
"We went to a lineup which is, in my opinion, is as physical a lineup as there is in this league," Carlisle said. "If you look at it man-for-man, Jackson is bigger than his man most nights, Al is always bigger than his guy, Jermaine is almost always taller and stronger than his guy and Jeff is equal usually in size and has a quickness advantage a lot of nights. And (Jamaal) Tinsley is above-average in size. We have to take advantage of that aspect.
"We have the ability to go smaller and player faster but it's important when we have that group in there that we're playing a physical game at both ends, getting to the free-throw line, and with no diminished emphasis on stops and running. You've got to run to get easy baskets. I have been a staunch believer in that and it's no less an emphasis for us. But our lineup situation has changed our overall outlook just a little bit. We've got to play to our strengths."
The Pacers are celebrating their 40th season as a franchise. Mark Montieth looks at 40 significant moments in the Pacers history, from their roots in the ABA through the modern day NBA. There are several interesting tidbits from the past, including the fact that no one knows who scored the first basket in franchise history.
Bob Netolicky, Roger Brown, Oliver Darden, Freddie Lewis and Jim Dawson were the starters when the Pacers first took the court against the Kentucky Colonels on Oct. 14, 1967. All but Dawson have been asked, but none remembered. The statistical crew did not keep detailed play-by-play records at the time, and the newspaper accounts did not mention it.Looking the the event timeline, it's obvious what a different world the NBA was during the pre-Bird, Magic 1970's. After joining the NBA in 1976, the Pacers would do about anything for publicity to keep the franchise afloat.
If you can help us solve the mystery, let us know.
Can you imagine today's Pacers holding a benefit telethon FOR THEMSELVES? With a $70 million payroll, I don't think they'd get too many calls.July 3, 1977
WTTV-4 conducts a telethon in the 500 Ballroom of the Indiana Convention Center to "save" the franchise, which is struggling on the court and at the gate. The event helps sell 8,000 season tickets.Sept. 12, 1979
The Pacers release Ann Meyers, who still ranks as the only woman to try out for an NBA team. Meyers, one of the greatest women players of her era, was brought in on orders from owner Sam Nassi, who believed she had a chance to make the team.